Someday you'll need to stand tall again (emella) wrote,
Someday you'll need to stand tall again
emella

Grey's Anatomy & Supernatural



Okay, So the ep was okay. I hate Karev right now, I mean he's such an asshole, Addison shouldn't have done the surgery, but Karev DEFINITELY shouldn't have tattled.

Is it just me or did George's haircute make him look more manly? I really like man!George. He's so much better than boy!George. OMG LOL Boy George!

The Izzie/Denny interactions were great, and I love Jefferey Dean Morgan SO much. He's so just guh. His voice and man... He's like way old for me, but there's just something about him. Did anyone else see that look on his face? When he was talking to Bailey and Meredith in the beginning of the show and Izzie popped in to his room. His face was like such an 'I'm-so-in-love' face.

Also, the Burke/George friendship is so great.

McVet is so cute, but Meredith *is* acting slutty. I really dislike the whole sluttiness factor with her story, it's just very off putting.

Meh. I'd give this ep a 6 1/2 out of 10.

Next week oh man, they can't kill off Denny. He's too damn great. *whimper* We'll just have to wait and see I guess. *hopes Denny doesn't die.*

Okay, now also, I have some thoughts on John Winchester and the Supernatural finale. [Note: It turned into a big ol' meta.]



So I've been thinking about it, and I'm fairly certain John will die, here's why.

Reasons why John might die:
1.) First off, the show isn't really about John. I would be as sad as the next girl if he dies, but we know that the show can survive without him. He's a great character and I love the dynamic between the boys and him, but if John dies it would be okay, we would have lots of angst, but inevitably we can move on.

2.) Half of the Supernatural fandom is *expecting* him to die. A lot of us are expecting John to die, so it wouldn't be such of a let down if he actually does. From everything that we've seen so far, it seems like half of us are reading the signs to mean John will be dying, and if that many of us think that, how wrong can that many fangirls be?

3.) John has been kept away from the show. Now this reason I could just be pulling out of my ass, but hear me out. Now for the plot's sake John had to be kept away from the boys for the first half of the season, but why the second half? What was to stop John from joining the boys during Shadows? Why have him leave them at the end of that ep at all? If they are all stronger as a family, and they all want to find the demon, why wait to have them reunited? Excluding the fact that JDM didn't want to join the show or something, there is only one reason to put off John joining Sam and Dean.

Looking at all of our reactions from the last 2 1/2 weeks with John on the show, we pretty much all like, if not love, John. So maybe the writers were keeping him away to build up the finale when he dies. For a character to have a good death on a show, the fans need to know and like the character, but not feel like the show is completely stupid after the character is gone. We've seen the show with just Sam and Dean, we know it's a great show, so by putting off John joining the boys, they've kept us mostly unattached to his character, we'll be really sad if he dies, but not so heartbroken that we resent the show.

Realistically Kripke/the writers could have had John join the boys for Shadows. They could have kept that long arc of finding the demon, yet still have the small episodic plot detours along the way, they showed us that that was possible through Dead Man's Blood. In DMB John wasn't looking for the colt, so we know that he's not so focused on finding the demon that he can't take detours to help other people/solve other mysteries. Really the only reason to keep John from joining the show earlier (excluding JDM's feelings) is because Kripke/the writers didn't want us to get attached to his character.

4.) And more on the writers; the writers would probably find it much easier to kill off John. If Dad goes, it will be horrible and the boys will get angsty and sad, but what if he stays?

If John doesn't die how will the writers write the show? Will Dad join up and they turn into a big 'ol demon fightin' family again? No. Sam and John have too much between them, it would be pretty much the same as before Sam left, and we all know that that is a bad thing. Sam Dad = Fighting = Badness.

Also, if Dad stays on the show, there really is no reason for Sam to stay. The whole show is about Sam and Dean, not Sam, Dean, and Dad. If John lives, he and Dean could continue to hunt things while Sam goes back to college because realistically Dean only needs one hunting partner. If John is around, Sam can go and start his life again, without fear that Dean will wind up dead. However if John dies, there will still be that huge gap between the brothers and Sam will probably feel some obligation to stay with Dean and continue on; plus they would have all new angst added into the scenario.

So technically from a writing stand point, it's easier for John to go. If John dies the writers don't have to work around the awkwardness of fitting in a third character, and the boys get to hurt a bit more. (Come on, have you people learned nothing from Buffy? Main character(s) pain = the best show ever.)

5.) John is ready to die. From everything we've seen, he's completely willing to die to kill this demon. He doesn't expect to make it through the fight, and I think on some level he may *want* to die. Now, I'm not saying he really really wants *die*, but I think that he's completely willing to sacrifice himself in order to kill the demon and find peace. His whole life has been wrapped up in this fight and he wants it to be over so badly, I think he believes that if he has to die for it to be over, then so be it. John really just wants some peace and resolution.

6.) For the future, it might even be better if John *does* die. John has spent his whole life tracking down this demon, his whole life has been devoted to avenging his wife. Well what happens when that is all over? It reminds me of Frodo and the Ring(as crappy as that sounds), what is he supposed to do when his part in the tale is over? Granted John could possibly go on to do more demon fighting or even settle down and start a new life, but realistically could that happen?

No.

If someone is so devoted to their spouse that they spend 22 years looking and searching for the thing/person that killed them, they aren't just going to stop once it's all over and settle down to start a new life. John won't automatically be able to move on with his life once the demon dies, it's not a magical solution, Mary will still be gone.

Now I'm not sure John realizes this. I think he's really just so focused on ending the fight that he hasn't stepped back to look at everything. Some part of John died that night with Mary, and I think he's being a bit selfish in his motivations if he's so focused on avenging her that he leaves the boys completely out in the cold.

So what happens when John does end this demon and he doesn't die? What happens when he steps back and looks at his life and his family? What happens when he realizes that the family he's been so intent on saving(because yes, somewhere in his mind he's still stuck on saving Mary from the ceiling and giving the boys their mother) is gone? His sons are grown and he's completely alienated them. He's turned Dean into a perfect hunter who can't *be* normal, he's pushed Sam away and made Sam resent him for it. Basically John just can't pick up where he left off when Mary died, he can't go back to normal after everything he's been through. He can't pick up the pieces of his old life.

Now John may or may not die, but these are the reason why I believe he will die. I love the character, John, I think the Winchesters are a great family and their interactions are fun to watch, but I think inevitably for the sake of the John and the story there is only one outcome for him. I'm pretty sure John will die.

*miserable sigh* Now please tell me what you think and comment and everything, I really didn't intend for this to be meta, but I guess that's just how it goes. I really would like other's thoughts on this, so please tell me what you think. :)

Thanks! :D
Tags: grey's anatomy, meta, show review, supernatural, tv
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